Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/FuelWagon v. Ed Poor/Proposed decision
all proposed
After considering /Evidence and discussing proposals with other arbitrators, parties and others at /Workshop place proposals which are ready for voting here.
Arbitrators should vote for or against each point or abstain.
- Only items that receive a majority "support" vote will be passed.
- Items that receive a majority "oppose" vote will be formally rejected.
- Items that do not receive a majority "support" or "oppose" vote will be open to possible amendment by any Arbitrator if he so chooses. After the amendment process is complete, the item will be voted on one last time.
Conditional votes for or against and abstentions should be explained by the Arbitrator before or after his/her time-stamped signature. For example, an Arbitrator can state that she/he would only favor a particular remedy based on whether or not another remedy/remedies were passed.
On this case, no Arbitrators are recused and one is inactive, so 6 votes are a majority.
- For all items
Proposed wording to be modified by Arbitrators and then voted on. Non-Arbitrators may comment on the talk page.
Motions and requests by the parties
editPlace those on /Workshop.
Proposed temporary injunctions
editFour net "support" votes needed to pass (each "oppose" vote subtracts a "support")
24 hours from the first vote is normally the fastest an injunction will be imposed.
FuelWagon banned until case closed except for Arbitration pages
edit1) FuelWagon (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is banned, until the conclusion of this Arbitration, from editing any page except those directly related to Arbitration involving him, and his own User and User Talk pages. He may be blocked for a short time, up to three days, for any edit violating this injunction, and all such edits may be reverted by any editor without regard to the limitations of the three revert rule.
Enacted on 17:46, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
- Support:
- Oppose:
- Abstain:
FuelWagon banned until case closed
edit2) FuelWagon (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is banned, until the conclusion of this Arbitration, from editing any page on Wikipedia including all talk pages and his user pages.
- Support:
- Fred Bauder 18:55, 3 December 2005 (UTC) First choice
- second choice ➥the Epopt 19:10, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose:
- James F. (talk) 17:46, 4 December 2005 (UTC) (No need to restrict from Arbitration pages too.)
- Neutralitytalk 23:57, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
Proposed final decision
editProposed principles
editNo personal attacks
edit1) Wikipedia:No personal attacks
- Support:
- Raul654 18:06, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
- Fred Bauder 14:23, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- ➥the Epopt 21:42, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- Kelly Martin (talk) 21:38, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- James F. (talk) 22:40, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Neutralitytalk 23:57, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Mindspillage (spill yours?) 20:02, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose:
- Abstain:
Civility
edit- Support:
- Raul654 18:06, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
- Fred Bauder 14:23, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- ➥the Epopt 21:42, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- Kelly Martin (talk) 21:38, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- James F. (talk) 22:40, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Neutralitytalk 23:57, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Mindspillage (spill yours?) 20:02, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose:
- Abstain:
Harassment
edit- Support:
- Raul654 18:06, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
- Fred Bauder 14:23, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- ➥the Epopt 21:42, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- Kelly Martin (talk) 21:38, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- James F. (talk) 22:40, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Neutralitytalk 23:57, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Mindspillage (spill yours?) 20:02, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose:
- Abstain:
Ownership of articles
edit4) Although working on an article does not entitle one to "own" the article, it is still important to respect the work of your fellow contributors. - Wikipedia:Ownership of articles
- Support:
- Raul654 18:06, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
- Fred Bauder 14:23, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- ➥the Epopt 21:42, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- Kelly Martin (talk) 21:38, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- James F. (talk) 22:40, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Neutralitytalk 23:57, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Mindspillage (spill yours?) 20:02, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose:
- Abstain:
Proposed findings of fact
editEd Poor's misuse of access
edit1) Ed Poor has a history of misusing any permissions given him, which has resulted in Ed losing both his developer and bureaucrat access.
- Support:
- Raul654 18:06, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
- Fred Bauder 14:23, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- ➥the Epopt 21:42, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- Kelly Martin (talk) 21:38, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- James F. (talk) 22:40, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Neutralitytalk 23:57, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Mindspillage (spill yours?) 20:05, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose:
- Abstain:
FuelWagon's instigation of Edit wars
edit2) FuelWagon has instigated a number of edit wars across numerous articles, including Terrorism, creation science, etc.
- Support:
- Raul654 18:06, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
- Fred Bauder 14:23, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- ➥the Epopt 21:42, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- Kelly Martin (talk) 21:38, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- James F. (talk) 22:40, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Neutralitytalk 23:57, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Mindspillage (spill yours?) 20:05, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose:
- Abstain:
Origins of the Terri Schiavo dispute
edit3) Following edits by SlimVirgin to Terri Schiavo, an edit war ensued, with FuelWagon and Slimvirgin being the primary participants. FuelWagon launched into a tirade of personal attacks [1], for which he was blocked by Ed Poor. FuelWagon later apologized to SlimVirgin [2] user:Neuroscientist then posted a long critique of SlimVirgin's edits [3]. The critique included many accurate criticisms of Slimvirgin's edit, but also included patronizing remarks directed at SlimVirgin [4] Ed Poor asked Neuroscientist to refrain from such comments [5], citing Wikipedia:Avoid personal remarks (the validity of which is debatable)
- Support:
- Oppose:
- Abstain:
I see Wikipedia:Avoid personal remarks as a restatement of Wikipedia:Avoid personal attacks which is policy. Fred Bauder 14:23, 10 December 2005 (UTC)- Agree with Fred. James F. (talk) 22:40, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
Ed Poor's subsequent block of FuelWagon
edit4) While FuelWagon was blocked, Ed Poor moved a large section of FuelWagon's talk page to a /block subpage and then protected it, claiming (falsely) it contained personal attacks. [6][7][8] When confronted with this, Ed states that "I am frankly not sure I have any "right" to block other users at all, in situations such as you described above. Basically, I'm getting away with it because I've been around a long time" [9]
- Support:
- Raul654 18:06, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
- Fred Bauder 14:23, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- ➥the Epopt 21:42, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- Kelly Martin (talk) 21:38, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- James F. (talk) 22:40, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Neutralitytalk 23:57, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Mindspillage (spill yours?) 20:05, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose:
- Abstain:
Departures as a result of this dispute
edit5) As a result of this dispute, multiple users (Ghost, Neuroscientist, Duckecho) have left Wikipedia.
- Support:
- Raul654 18:06, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
- Fred Bauder 14:23, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- ➥the Epopt 21:42, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- Kelly Martin (talk) 21:38, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- James F. (talk) 22:40, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Neutralitytalk 23:57, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Mindspillage (spill yours?) 20:05, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose:
- Abstain:
FuelWagon stalking SlimVirgin
edit6) There is substantial evidence that FuelWagon has begun wiki-stalking SlimVirgin [10].
- Support:
- Raul654 18:22, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
- Fred Bauder 14:23, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- ➥the Epopt 21:42, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- Kelly Martin (talk) 21:38, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- James F. (talk) 22:40, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Neutralitytalk 23:57, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Mindspillage (spill yours?) 20:05, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose:
- Abstain:
Proposed remedies
editNote: All remedies that refer to a period of time, for example to a ban of X months or a revert parole of Y months, are to run concurrently unless otherwise stated.
FuelWagon banned
edit1) FuelWagon (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is banned for six months for extensive campaigns of harassment.
- Support:
- first choice ➥the Epopt 05:16, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- second choice Kelly Martin (talk) 05:45, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- Fred Bauder 14:23, 10 December 2005 (UTC) Second choice
- James F. (talk) 22:40, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Neutralitytalk 23:57, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Raul654 02:10, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
- first choice Mindspillage (spill yours?) 22:52, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose:
- Abstain:
Longer ban
edit1.1) FuelWagon (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is banned for one year for extensive campaigns of harassment.
- Support:
- second choice ➥the Epopt 05:16, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- first choice Kelly Martin (talk) 05:45, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- Fred Bauder 14:23, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- Second choice. James F. (talk) 22:40, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Neutralitytalk 23:57, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- second choice Mindspillage (spill yours?) 22:52, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose:
- Abstain:
Ed Poor desysopped
edit2) For repeated abuse of his sysop powers, both past and present, Ed Poor is desysopped. At his discretion, he may re-apply for them at wikipedia:Requests for adminship.
- Support:
- Raul654 03:34, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- ➥the Epopt 21:11, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Fred Bauder 21:15, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Kelly Martin (talk) 21:38, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- James F. (talk) 22:40, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Neutralitytalk 23:57, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Not so much for this case as for the repeated abuse. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 22:52, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose:
- Abstain:
Fuelwagon revert limitation
edit3) FuelWagon is prohibited from reverting any article more than once per week. If he should violate this, an administrator may block him for up to 24 hours.
- Support:
- Raul654 21:35, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Fred Bauder 21:48, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- James F. (talk) 22:40, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Kelly Martin (talk) 02:44, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- Neutralitytalk 23:57, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- ➥the Epopt 21:38, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
- Mindspillage (spill yours?) 22:52, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose:
- Abstain:
FuelWagon placed on general probation
edit4) FuelWagon is placed on indefinite Wikipedia:Probation. If in the opinion of any three administrators, for good cause, he is responsible for disrupting the functioning of Wikipedia, restrictions may be placed on his editing, up to and including a general ban of one year. Each restriction imposed shall be documented and explained in a section at the bottom of Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/FuelWagon v. Ed Poor. Should any period of one year pass without any such restriction being imposed FuelWagon's probation shall automatically end.
- Support:
- Fred Bauder 14:03, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- Raul654 - note that I've removed the first clause 18:25, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- James F. (talk) 21:51, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- ➥the Epopt 04:48, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
- Kelly Martin (talk) 17:07, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- Mindspillage (spill yours?) 22:52, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose:
- Abstain:
Proposed enforcement
editTemplate
edit1) {text of proposed enforcement}
- Support:
- Oppose:
- Abstain:
Discussion by Arbitrators
editGeneral
editMotion to close
editFour net "support" votes needed to close case (each "oppose" vote subtracts a "support")
24 hours from the first motion is normally the fastest a case will close.
Everything has passed.
- Everything has passed. Raul654 22:58, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- Close it, yes. James F. (talk) 23:05, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- Close. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 23:06, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- Close Fred Bauder 23:31, 21 December 2005 (UTC)