khumak

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I need some help... Valeria Helm (Lovisa's mom) is permanently angry no matter what I do. I lower her anger and the next day she's mad again with 100% certainty. I don't have her doing anything "weird", she's still Pure and uncorrupted working as a Maid with no Title, her daughters and husband are perfectly fine, and this has been going on for over 80 in-game days since she first joined.
There's nothing in the wiki about it, there's nothing in her conversations about it, absolutely no indication of what's going on. I was curious so I even put her and the entire family in their own bedroom and nope, she's still mad the next morning like clockwork... Does anyone have any idea wtf is wrong with this stupid woman?
If you boost her affection to loving or higher for an extended period of time you destroy her marriage and that tanks both her and Gregory's affection. She needs to not be above amiable to avoid that. Same with Connor's wife. Dinner parties could do that. Fucking them could also do that. Not sure if pool parties would be enough to do that since they both have their affection decay by as much as you get from the pool party. It would have to be that plus something else if you're doing those.
 
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OneMoreZoner

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all of the npc
ALL of the NPCs? That's a new one. Key question - did it work before?

1. Try to relaunch the game.
2. If this happened after you downloaded a new version - either it's not properly unzipped or a broken download. Try to reextract the zip. If problem persists - try to redownload if you can.
You can also manually check the Pics folder for the NPC images. Are they there?
3. I'm assuming you're running this on a pc - android is a different can of worms.

Let us know if it works.

If nothing works, the dev visits this forum from time to time, so you got the best expertise available :)
 

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If you boost her relationship to loving or higher for an extended period of time you destroy her marriage and that tanks both her and Gregory's affection. She needs to not be above amiable to avoid that. Same with Connor's wife. Dinner parties could do that. Fucking them could also do that. Not sure if pool parties would be enough to do that since they both have their affection decay by as much as you get from the pool party. It would have to be that plus something else if you're doing those.
Both their relationship bars are completely full, I just threw Greg into the Academy as a Teacher and made Valeria a Maid then completely ignored them so their Relationship is totally fine and their Happiness is also 100 thanks to the occasional Pool Party and my pimped out house naturally maxing Happiness.
Despite that they both permanently have 1 anger, it never increases beyond 1, and when I decrease it through Applicants, it just comes back the next day.
Edit: The end of day results also don't show them gaining anger which might reinforce that it's a bug, although idk if it's normal for the Summary to not show anger gains since I almost never go to sleep before 12am because I'm addicted to min-maxing this game and thus have no idea how the Summary works.
 
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ALL of the NPCs? That's a new one. Key question - did it work before?

1. Try to relaunch the game.
2. If this happened after you downloaded a new version - either it's not properly unzipped or a broken download. Try to reextract the zip. If problem persists - try to redownload if you can.
You can also manually check the Pics folder for the NPC images. Are they there?
3. I'm assuming you're running this on a pc - android is a different can of worms.

Let us know if it works.

If nothing works, the dev visits this forum from time to time, so you got the best expertise available :)
Thanks for your help
 
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Hans98

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That was my first thought, but nah, their Traits are normal. Sure they're both Pure and my Household is pretty corrupted, but that shouldn't affect anything and Caitlin is totally unaffected so that doesn't seem to be it.
Maybe I did something to bug out Greg's Docile Trait to make it increase his anger twice as much instead of reducing it twice as fast like it's supposed to? No idea what I could've possibly done, but since they've both been mad for literal months of in-game time without getting over it there's clearly something going on behind the scenes that's not supposed to be happening.
Edit: Tried freeing them from slavery and still nope, they still just regain the anger the next morning, so yeah, almost guaranteed that I bugged something out in some way, shape or form.
How did you find Lovisas Family? Is there a trigger for this event?
 

Clemency

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Some my npc pictures are missing, anyone know how to solve?
Turn off Sandman's mod in game settings page 2.
Also how to start the expedition in the last relatives quest? Wait until stacey gone missing?
There is no expedition in this version. Only Stacey. Grim forgot to put Expedition WIP in the journal.
How did you find Lovisas Family? Is there a trigger for this event?
A low corruption decent willpower Tori will start the quest in her Ask Something ---> Hopes and Dreams.
 
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kopiluwak

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Both their relationship bars are completely full, I just threw Greg into the Academy as a Teacher and made Valeria a Maid then completely ignored them so their Relationship is totally fine and their Happiness is also 100 thanks to the occasional Pool Party and my pimped out house naturally maxing Happiness.
Despite that they both permanently have 1 anger, it never increases beyond 1, and when I decrease it through Applicants, it just comes back the next day.
Edit: The end of day results also don't show them gaining anger which might reinforce that it's a bug, although idk if it's normal for the Summary to not show anger gains since I almost never go to sleep before 12am because I'm addicted to min-maxing this game and thus have no idea how the Summary works.
Well you can say it's a bug, OR for role-play purposes, you could say that theses parents are both legitimately mad you fucked both their daughters out of their sanity, and on top of that you force them to live in the same room, with cum trailing down their gaping holes... I know I would be pretty angry.
 
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Lurker452

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Well you can say it's a bug, OR for role-play purposes, you could say that theses parents are both legitimately mad you fucked both their daughters out of their sanity, and on top of that you force them to live in the same room, with cum trailing down their gaping holes... I know I would be pretty angry.
I noticed the anger in my last game as well, and decided that since they were Pure parents and I was whipping and ass fucking their teenage daughters in my dungeon it made sense.

FWIW if you break Valeria's relationship trait she stops being angry, and her husband eventually gets over it. There's unique text when you interact with Lovisa after that, so there's clearly code in the game that recognizes the family link.
 
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