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| Alright ending,I guess. 7/10,wasn't as good as I was expecting it to be.Think I might have even liked season 1 better too. |
AniMeriiFreak said: flack said: Aryaragi said: Lol, ridiculous ending. They pissed all over kyousuke's sacrifice. Well it's from key, what could I expect There was an ending where they really were all dead, but that was not animated. In fact that was the true ending. The ending where they all survive (animated) is in fact a world created by Riki and Rin, a fake world. People should not have watched this anime. It is a disgrace to the VN. Can you tell me more of what happens in the True Ending from the VN? It's exactly the same for the most part. The only difference is there is no "normal end" where they aren't saved. The true end is what you're given here. the normal end is pretty abrupt and short. It's literally what it sounds like. It's like 3-4 minutes long. |
flack said: Aryaragi said: Lol, ridiculous ending. They pissed all over kyousuke's sacrifice. Well it's from key, what could I expect There was an ending where they really were all dead, but that was not animated. In fact that was the true ending. People should not have watched this anime. It is a disgrace to the VN. While I agree that the anime is mostly a disgrace to the VN, you're delusional if you think the true ending of the VN takes place where everyone is dead. There IS an ending where everyone is dead. It's called the normal ending, and I prefer it myself. The Drama CD confirms that the true end takes place in the real world, not in some dream created by Riki and Rin at the end. Their dream world is only created for Riki to overcome his narcolepsy, and it ends soon after. As for the rest, it's obviously time travel magical nonsense, but the true end is the real world. http://nonsensetls.wordpress.com/2012/09/21/little-busters-bokura-no-asa-2/ “Do you think that you’re still inside a dream?” - Kyousukei “……” - Riki As I thought. -Riki As I thought, Kyousuke could see through everything. - Riki “Rest assured, it’s not like that. Today is today. Tomorrow will be tomorrow, and time will continue to flow.” - Kyousuke Anyway, I consider the normal ending and true ending to be two separate instances, similar to Clannad. There's a perfect true end where all the character development rolls over to the real world, but there's the normal end where everything sucks shit and it's depressing. I'd prefer it if the anime had two endings to consider, rather than having a boring and cheesily written slow-paced copout that devalues the farewells and Kyousuke's sacrifice by not ever going through with the bad end to begin with. The copout might as well be Key magic with even less emotional impact, and just as much asspulling, honestly. At least, with the bad end, you can consider the first 38 episodes of the anime as one entity where the Little Busters died, and the story implied by Kyousuke from episode 10 is true, no misdirection. Key magic undoing it the next episode just appeases the audience that was hoping for a good end, and people who already got a bad end got it. I always thought part of the purpose of VNs having multiple routes and endings is to appease different audiences with more variety, and give them an ending they can feel satisfied with. JC Staff didn't seem to get the memo, so they just wrote around it and it devalues the buildup and degrades the rewatchability. Anyway, if this series was actually going to be great with the change of an ending, I would be more upset. This might've changed my score from a 6->7 or something. Inb4 my review. Just go look at Veronin and his reviews vs. his personal scores. |
Vladz0rJan 2, 2014 5:22 PM
| Eh, I really enjoyed this sequel but the ending seemed a bit too convenient and underwhelming. I know it sounds cruel but they were better off dead. I was even hoping that maybe Riki sacrificed himself during the explosion or something. I'm not against happy endings, but it just seemed like it was effortlessly patched up. Also, I think I enjoyed this sequel so much because the other girls were out of the picture for the majority of it. I'm not sure why, but the moment Komari and the others started acting super cutesy I started to cringe a bit (never happens, I love CGDCT!). I'm glad I didn't go into this with "omg gawna top After Story DAWG!" cause I'd probably be crying from disappointment right now. Stuck between a 7 or 8, enjoyable but I was ready to dish out a 9 with the "fake world/everyone's dead" reveal earlier. |
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| The only key adaption to not bring me to tears, I am disappoint. At least it was better than I thought it would be. I agree with what the guy above my post said. |
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| OK There are so many posts about how the dream world could have been created if everyone lived and I would have to say its a mystery because Kyousuke totally contradicted himself saying that Rin and Riki were in fact the sole survivors, but then I see some posts explaining how Kyousuke mentioned something else that implied that they were alive, but really i'm not sure. I'm going to have to say there were a few screw ups here. Another question though, did the Little Busters know each other in the real world at all? Or only gathered together in the fake world? ...And another. Who was Kengo distracted by during that rainy baseball challenge? Welp, got to say I was disappointed. It would've been much better if everyone truly died and Riki and Rin had to get over it. SO MUCH KEY MAGIC WAS USED IN THE MAKING OF THIS. THEY BETTER REFILL THEIR CANISTERS FOR THE NEXT MIRACLE IN THE MAKING. ...but, because it was a cool concept and it was sad at points + KEY DUH! = 9/10 Totally off topic but couldn't help but notice 2 other Kingdom Hearts fans before me, HURRAH FOR KH3! |
HandSonicvIJan 3, 2014 2:36 PM
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DenjaX said: That's why I enjoyed season 1 very much. 8/10 still. I enoyed the ride. LOL I don't think the characters enjoyed it much. xDDDDD |
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| Ahhh it good to have them all not dead I thought Kyouskue died for a second there :D didn't the bus explode? Glad that its back to being a happy bright anime other episodes were like dark and Sad and i dont like being Sad |
| BTW are all of us who would have preferred a sad ending technically masochists? While everyone else who prefers a happy ending more normal. Makes you wonder doesn't it. |
| Liked this Anime Very much,glad everyone alive :D for me best anime of 2013 for sure the Song for friends(Kurugaya,masato,kengo)episodes were really emotional for me but compensate with good ending. |
| Lol, geez. People sure do have bad taste to call this "best anime of 2013".. for me its the other way around, its in the top 20 of worst anime of "2013". |
HandSonicvI said: Another question though, did the Little Busters know each other in the real world at all? Or only gathered together in the fake world? They gathered in the dream world. They've never met prior to the accident. :3 HandSonicvI said: ...And another. Who was Kengo distracted by during that rainy baseball challenge? Anime failed to mention this, so you can either ask a vn reader or go to her character's page and click on that spoiler. All we can see from what the anime told us is that it seems Kengo really cared about this girl from how he saved her from that accidental suicide on the roof in the first season. |
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| Not one person died eh? Not even fodder students? Okay. |
| Well, it's a good thing they're all back together. I'm somewhat satisfied with the ending. I was hoping for something a bit more between Riki and Rin. I guess Little Busters! comes first :D I kind of find it ridiculous how time flew by this episode. |
| wonderful end ^^ It's good to see everyone together again :D 8/10 |
flack said: Aryaragi said: Lol, ridiculous ending. They pissed all over kyousuke's sacrifice. Well it's from key, what could I expect There was an ending where they really were all dead, but that was not animated. In fact that was the true ending. The ending where they all survive (animated) is in fact a world created by Riki and Rin, a fake world. People should not have watched this anime. It is a disgrace to the VN. I disagree, the ending where they all died is the Normal ending, the world that they showed where they all survive is the true ending, The normal ending would have been used if the animators wanted it to have a more realistic ending but because a bunch of anime only viewers likely would have called bullshit on the series they went with the true ending and have everyone survive. This is just my opinion and you are entitled to yours as well :) |
SakurasouBusters said: flack said: Aryaragi said: Lol, ridiculous ending. They pissed all over kyousuke's sacrifice. Well it's from key, what could I expect There was an ending where they really were all dead, but that was not animated. In fact that was the true ending. The ending where they all survive (animated) is in fact a world created by Riki and Rin, a fake world. People should not have watched this anime. It is a disgrace to the VN. I disagree, the ending where they all died is the Normal ending, the world that they showed where they all survive is the true ending, The normal ending would have been used if the animators wanted it to have a more realistic ending but because a bunch of anime only viewers likely would have called bullshit on the series they went with the true ending and have everyone survive. This is just my opinion and you are entitled to yours as well :) It's not even an opinion it's a confirmed fact. Otherwise we would only have the labels "normal end, and good end" like swan song instead of normal and true end. |
MagicFlier said: HandSonicvI said: Another question though, did the Little Busters know each other in the real world at all? Or only gathered together in the fake world? They gathered in the dream world. They've never met prior to the accident. :3 OMFG MY WHOLE LIFE IS A LIE. NOTHING EVER HAPPENED WHY ;_; Welp, isn't that MIGHTY DANDY OF SOME PEOPLE THAT DON"T EVEN KNOW YOU TO HELP MAKE A F***ING FAKE WORLD FOR YOU. I don't quite understand this anime anymore. Everyone say's that Little Busters is far better than Clannad (in the VN of course) but even if a godly adaptation was made, I feel like I would like Clannad better still, the concept feels a tad bit more, I don't know , realistic I guess? But meh, people will argue that this is anime and "its not the real world derrr", but I know. Clannad feels a lot more relate able I suppose. |
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MagicFlier said: HandSonicvI said: ...And another. Who was Kengo distracted by during that rainy baseball challenge? Anime failed to mention this, so you can either ask a vn reader or go to her character's page and click on that spoiler. All we can see from what the anime told us is that it seems Kengo really cared about this girl from how he saved her from that accidental suicide on the roof in the first season. Well then...read the spoiler........I see why that would be a cruel trick... THAT WAS MORE HEARTBREAKING THAN THE ENDING. |
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HandSonicvI said: In the darkness, Kyousuke cried out for help, specifically to the girls. We're not sure why and how he chose them. Masato and Kengo were already in on the plan. The other girls answered his call presumably because they wanted to do something good with their lives before dying. OMFG MY WHOLE LIFE IS A LIE. NOTHING EVER HAPPENED WHY ;_; Welp, isn't that MIGHTY DANDY OF SOME PEOPLE THAT DON"T EVEN KNOW YOU TO HELP MAKE A F***ING FAKE WORLD FOR YOU. I don't quite understand this anime anymore. Much is left unsaid, but we can assume that Kyousuke "explained" the plan to everyone before they created the world. By taking part of this, the girls would be healing their wounds and prolonging their lives. The Little Busters gave them a place, and made them an important gear of this dream world, rather than the insignificant pieces that they thought they were in the real world (e.g. Mio was a loner before this). And in the end, they were able to come back as more strong and confident individuals. They sacrificed themselves (if Riki succumbed to narcolepsy instead of helping them out, they would have to repeat their traumatic routes; e.g. Kud and Kyousuke's conversation in season 1), and got something even more valuable out of it. I think it's beautiful. |
HandSonicvI said: MagicFlier said: HandSonicvI said: Another question though, did the Little Busters know each other in the real world at all? Or only gathered together in the fake world? They gathered in the dream world. They've never met prior to the accident. :3 OMFG MY WHOLE LIFE IS A LIE. NOTHING EVER HAPPENED WHY ;_; Welp, isn't that MIGHTY DANDY OF SOME PEOPLE THAT DON"T EVEN KNOW YOU TO HELP MAKE A F***ING FAKE WORLD FOR YOU. I don't quite understand this anime anymore. Everyone say's that Little Busters is far better than Clannad (in the VN of course) but even if a godly adaptation was made, I feel like I would like Clannad better still, the concept feels a tad bit more, I don't know , realistic I guess? But meh, people will argue that this is anime and "its not the real world derrr", but I know. Clannad feels a lot more relate able I suppose. Like shirayuki75 said, Kyousuke chose them and got them involved in his plan unconsciously as he was explaining in episode 10. If the girls did consciously help Kyousuke while being aware of the dream world's creation, then why didn't they not realize it was a dream world? They only realized after experiencing the first set of resets. We can assume that afterwards he explained it to the girls and how the importance of their existence are as "gears" to the dream world. Both Clannad and LB contains dream worlds. Both are also realistic and relatable in some way, it's how you interpret their situations. It's just that people say that Little Busters has the more realistic ending from how it led up to this point compared to Clannad's. For me, Little Busters was a lot more relatable to me than Clannad. There are many touches to regret and trying to forget bad things, having a circle of people you can call home to, hoping everything remains unchanging. Despite having learned various things from both shows, LB honestly moved me a lot so it won't be forgotten. |
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MagicFlier said: HandSonicvI said: MagicFlier said: HandSonicvI said: Another question though, did the Little Busters know each other in the real world at all? Or only gathered together in the fake world? They gathered in the dream world. They've never met prior to the accident. :3 OMFG MY WHOLE LIFE IS A LIE. NOTHING EVER HAPPENED WHY ;_; Welp, isn't that MIGHTY DANDY OF SOME PEOPLE THAT DON"T EVEN KNOW YOU TO HELP MAKE A F***ING FAKE WORLD FOR YOU. I don't quite understand this anime anymore. Everyone say's that Little Busters is far better than Clannad (in the VN of course) but even if a godly adaptation was made, I feel like I would like Clannad better still, the concept feels a tad bit more, I don't know , realistic I guess? But meh, people will argue that this is anime and "its not the real world derrr", but I know. Clannad feels a lot more relate able I suppose. Like shirayuki75 said, Kyousuke chose them and got them involved in his plan unconsciously as he was explaining in episode 10. If the girls did consciously help Kyousuke while being aware of the dream world's creation, then why didn't they not realize it was a dream world? They only realized after experiencing the first set of resets. We can assume that afterwards he explained it to the girls and how the importance of their existence are as "gears" to the dream world. Both Clannad and LB contains dream worlds. Both are also realistic and relatable in some way, it's how you interpret their situations. It's just that people say that Little Busters has the more realistic ending from how it led up to this point compared to Clannad's. For me, Little Busters was a lot more relatable to me than Clannad. There are many touches to regret and trying to forget bad things, having a circle of people you can call home to, hoping everything remains unchanging. Despite having learned various things from both shows, LB honestly moved me a lot so it won't be forgotten. Well that kind of sucks. I feel left out because, really, I wasn't moved one bit. Maybe because it was adapted poorly + I didn't read the VN. I probably relate to Clannad more because I find school, well pretty much everything boring like Tomoya. SOOOO BOOOOOORED! Everyone was kind of , "hurray school, fun stuff!" in LB. and like I said in a past post, SO MUCH KEY MAGIC WAS USED, KYOUSUKE SAID THEY WERE DEAD, ain't no coming back but ok do it anyways, break the universe, unless D-mail was used I seriously can't look around that. Not saying that Clannad was realistic, but at least it saved most of the "magic" for the end, and really kept it in the shadows. |
HandSonicvIJan 4, 2014 6:12 PM
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| The crash scene didn't feel give me the Final Boss feel I was hoping for I guess some things can't be translated from the game perfectly Still good though |
HandSonicvI said: SO MUCH KEY MAGIC WAS USED, KYOUSUKE SAID THEY WERE DEAD, ain't no coming back Blame the sub, but Kyousuke never said that they are dead, only that they 'can't be saved'. |
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Kitsu-nee said: HandSonicvI said: SO MUCH KEY MAGIC WAS USED, KYOUSUKE SAID THEY WERE DEAD, ain't no coming back Blame the sub, but Kyousuke never said that they are dead, only that they 'can't be saved'. Yep, probably a translation problem from the sub group you watched from, but I'm sure that it wasn't that bad that it translated to "we are dead, you must go on" or something like that... Kyousuke never explicitly said they were dead, only "we are not going to make it". It's not like he said "We didn't make it", so it's not past tense but present tense. People just interpreted it that they are assumed dead because Kysousuke said they were the only 2 survivors... but Kysouke ONLY said that because he had never hoped Riki would gain enough courage and strength to surpass Kysousuke and did the impossible possible aka saved everyone from the crash. This strength that Kyousuke gave Riki resulted in Riki facing his trauma to fix and correct his narcolepsy since Riki's narcolepsy is the source of the problem. He would have never been able to save anyone if he still had his narcolepsy and had a attack. That's why Kyousuke wanted to make sure Riki and Rin will run from the site without looking back clear of doubts. |
MagicFlierJan 4, 2014 9:23 PM
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MagicFlier said: Kitsu-nee said: HandSonicvI said: SO MUCH KEY MAGIC WAS USED, KYOUSUKE SAID THEY WERE DEAD, ain't no coming back Blame the sub, but Kyousuke never said that they are dead, only that they 'can't be saved'. Yep, probably a translation problem from the sub group you watched from, but I'm sure that it wasn't that bad that it translated to "we are dead, you must go on" or something like that... Kyousuke never explicitly said they were dead, only "we are not going to make it". It's not like he said "We didn't make it", so it's not past tense but present tense. People just interpreted it that they are assumed dead because Kysousuke said they were the only 2 survivors... but Kysouke ONLY said that because he had never hoped Riki would gain enough courage and strength to surpass Kysousuke and did the impossible possible aka saved everyone from the crash. This strength that Kyousuke gave Riki resulted in Riki facing his trauma to fix and correct his narcolepsy since Riki's narcolepsy is the source of the problem. He would have never been able to save anyone if he still had his narcolepsy and had a attack. That's why Kyousuke wanted to make sure Riki and Rin will run from the site without looking back clear of doubts. Oh, well, WOW, one minor mistake sure can change A LOT now that you said that. But there was no mistake, I was confused why he said there were only two survivors. Was that part where you said that Kyousuke mentioned he only told them that they were the sole survivors because he thought they were not strong enough from the VN or was that assumed? Anyways, that's sort of confusing to an anime only watcher. And is Narcolepsy even curable??? |
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| I don't know why people are complaining so much about the adaptation. I find it great. Great episode, great anime. The "happy ending" thing fitted well, if you think about Komari and Rin's wish (come on, we're talking about Key) you will understand why everything ended well. COULD be better with a tragic end, but i liked this ending too. And for those who think that Kyousuke's effort was for nothing, just think about how they could survive without the training in the fake world. Riki and Rin saved everyone thanks to Kyousuke. Just saying. |
HandSonicvI said: MagicFlier said: Kitsu-nee said: HandSonicvI said: SO MUCH KEY MAGIC WAS USED, KYOUSUKE SAID THEY WERE DEAD, ain't no coming back Blame the sub, but Kyousuke never said that they are dead, only that they 'can't be saved'. Yep, probably a translation problem from the sub group you watched from, but I'm sure that it wasn't that bad that it translated to "we are dead, you must go on" or something like that... Kyousuke never explicitly said they were dead, only "we are not going to make it". It's not like he said "We didn't make it", so it's not past tense but present tense. People just interpreted it that they are assumed dead because Kysousuke said they were the only 2 survivors... but Kysouke ONLY said that because he had never hoped Riki would gain enough courage and strength to surpass Kysousuke and did the impossible possible aka saved everyone from the crash. This strength that Kyousuke gave Riki resulted in Riki facing his trauma to fix and correct his narcolepsy since Riki's narcolepsy is the source of the problem. He would have never been able to save anyone if he still had his narcolepsy and had a attack. That's why Kyousuke wanted to make sure Riki and Rin will run from the site without looking back clear of doubts. Oh, well, WOW, one minor mistake sure can change A LOT now that you said that. But there was no mistake, I was confused why he said there were only two survivors. Was that part where you said that Kyousuke mentioned he only told them that they were the sole survivors because he thought they were not strong enough from the VN or was that assumed? Anyways, that's sort of confusing to an anime only watcher. And is Narcolepsy even curable??? No, my explanation is based solely from the anime's dialogue. I didn't include any visual novel information in my last post. The anime's ending is also pretty different from the visual novel itself so it wouldn't help and will would make things even more confusing. So I only relied on the anime's dialogue. The anime removed and changed things that can go far enough to even change a vn player's perspective of the anime ending. The "Kyousuke told Riki and Rin they were the only survivors, because they were not strong enough" are my own speculations. It only makes sense if that was Kyousuke's goal though... The important part is that Kyousuke said that they didn't die, but they are "not going to make it". This changes everything. So why did Kyousuke say that Riki and Rin are the only survivors? I think that he wanted to get rid of any of Riki's doubts when they leave the dream world. Maybe Kyousuke might've overestimated how severe the situation was... but the bus could've exploded anytime even if he is covering the gas leak. Kyousuke might've thought up the possibility that Riki might've gotten a narcoleptic attack while trying to run away so I guess that's our answer... Also I don't even know if narcolepsy is curable since i didn't do any research on it, LOL... but someone went into detail about that so go here and read this: http://artifedex.tumblr.com/post/72291402077 |
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| Well I definitely liked the first season better, everyone's problems actually made a bit of sense and there were some really good moments. This, however, was magic 101. "We can't be saved!" Saves them all. ヽ(ﾟДﾟ)ﾉ I liked the first season's comedy and just them doing normal stuff. Upped first season's rating from 5/10 to 6/10. This season gets 5/10 from me, it's not disappointing since I wasn't expecting a real story and it did have plenty of nice moments (like people falling from the van's roof, ahue). Might lower both season's rating by 1 in the future though. |
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| Being an anime only watcher, this is easily a 10/10 for me, plenty of scene simply moved me into tears especially the part where they start to part and despite having a lot of questions left unanswered because i did not play the VN, i am satisfied enough to see a good and happy end, i thought we were going to be getting some sad ending when the bus exploded halfway through there, and then it'd turn this anime into some legendary epic end , but they decided to pull a good end back there and i must say i'm glad with that. All in all, great season 2, the quality of the animation greatly improved, good fluidity and good flow, plus some good OST and a pretty decent OP and ED, they managed to connect season 1 and season 2 together and the OP in both seasons were especially good when you understand their hidden meaning, i'm glad we are going to be getting a little more of LB! with the sequal LB! EX! being announced.. And now i have to go and seek some assistance from experienced VN player to help me answer my unanswered questions about this anime// |
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| I must admit that I was dissatisfied. First I thought it was because of the ending, but in the end I know what was the problem. I liked other Key's adaptations, I liked them very much, so it must've been JC's fault that I've stayed indifferent, or, even more honestly, even made fun of it. I don't have (well, I can take it as a 'neutral' theme) anything against magic stuff in Key's works, but here it was more of an autoparody than the actual series... God, to think I wasted time on 39 episodes of this... My god, I could've finished VN by now probably. |
DeathyZA said: Don't judge peoples "taste" I stated my own opinion of course anime wasn't better than VN it is still adaption and how is 8.3 is bad?same was with Angel Beats called "Bad" and now it beats first clannad.Lol, geez. People sure do have bad taste to call this "best anime of 2013".. for me its the other way around, its in the top 20 of worst anime of "2013". |
| 8.3 is the average, which can mean nothing, sometimes. From when does the average measure the actual quality? I don't understand... |
MoiGex said: DeathyZA said: Don't judge peoples "taste" I stated my own opinion of course anime wasn't better than VN it is still adaption and how is 8.3 is bad?same was with Angel Beats called "Bad" and now it beats first clannad.Lol, geez. People sure do have bad taste to call this "best anime of 2013".. for me its the other way around, its in the top 20 of worst anime of "2013". A Bad adaptation is B-A-D. average don't mean fcking shit bro. and lol you really think Little Busters Anime adaptation will take over Angel beats and clannad? next joke please :P This series to me was mediocre and it can stay like that, a 6/10. The VN was easily 10/10 though. |
| I think you misinterpreted him. People called Angel Beats bad, but it's higher ranked than the first season of Clannad. People call this bad but its in the top 200. Now if you ask me myanimelist rankings don't say a lot for a series quality, but it's apparent that several people enjoyed this adaption regardless. I mean Kanon is the best visual novel adaption there is but it's only rated a little higher than this. Remember, you're kind of biased because you read the VN, People who haven't read it aren't going to see it through the same eyes as you. Also remember that other people are going to have a different opinion from you regardless. If they enjoyed it, then good for them. If you didn't, it's a shame but hey you can always go back to reading the visual novel. |
hyperknees91Jan 6, 2014 4:20 PM
MCAL said: Also, just because some people don't like the anime automatically implies they will like the VN. Not EVERYONE thinks it is Key's best work. In fact I know several people (On other forums) that think its the worst. Obviously I don't agree there, though its not 10/10 for me (More like 8/10) But the only way to find out of course is to play the VN. No fucking shit. Of course entertainment is on an individual basis. That doesn't mean that the inherently superior source material has a worse shot than this hit or miss adaptation. If people enjoyed Key adaptation that carried the same emotions of the source material, and people enjoyed shit like Angel Beats, I think they deserve to be informed of the Little Busters VN that many people feel that this adaptation doesn't fairly represent it. As more and more friends of mine continue to finish the VN and call the anime mediocre, my argument just becomes further solidified. Just felt like dropping by while I'm eating. Glad I have't been perusing these forums like I used to, but I saw MCAL's name had to post ;) Anyway, this show is in the top 200 because season 1 was the most dropped show in 2012/2013, and the people watching it are the ones who actually still care for the show and persevered through or were unaffected by its mediocrity in production quality. Compare that to Angel Beats that factors in scores from people who watch 3-4 episodes, hate it, give it a low score, yet the score still stands strong. The same goes to Clannad but with a larger number of episodes. You have to watch 29 episodes of Little Busters before your Refrain score counts. The people who are still around to say that Refrain turned out great are a nice sight to see, but let's not forget the thousands who dropped the show because of its adaptation issues. |
Vladz0rJan 6, 2014 6:02 PM
hyperknees91 said: I think you misinterpreted him. People called Angel Beats bad, but it's higher ranked than the first season of Clannad. People call this bad but its in the top 200. Now if you ask me myanimelist rankings don't say a lot for a series quality, but it's apparent that several people enjoyed this adaption regardless. I mean Kanon is the best visual novel adaption there is but it's only rated a little higher than this. Remember, you're kind of biased because you read the VN, People who haven't read it aren't going to see it through the same eyes as you. Also remember that other people are going to have a different opinion from you regardless. If they enjoyed it, then good for them. If you didn't, it's a shame but hey you can always go back to reading the visual novel. At least you got my point,as VN player I don't understand the hate of course story rushed it is 13 episodes but I was waiting forward for adaption,they got the most important stuff but I guess people bitching about small things like Rin1,song for friends instead little melody and etc,I don't see why most VN players that Mad and harsh and criticize everything instead being happy for adaption if you hate it so much go play VN,on other hands anime only viewers most have positive feedback. |
| Oh man, people still actually think Little Melody being changed to Song for Friends is the extent of the hate on this adaptation? Are the changes to Kyousuke's antagonism with him no longer replacing Rin on the basbeall team, the removal of Kurugaya's diary being opened (despite it being illustrated in the opening), Masato looking like an angry zombie, Rin's only crying scene being drawn with awful QUALITY, and the Little Busters never actually dying, not valid arguments? The reason why people hate on the adaptation is because people aren't enjoying it to the level of expectations we've had since finishing the VN. We can't recommend our friends this anime and know that they'll like it anywhere near as much as other Key works. Just a few things from Rin and Kurugaya's route that aren't related to Little Melody, since you seem completely oblivious. http://pastebin.com/txNJxQaP Aaand I'm off the forums again now. I was just getting cured from the cancer but it seems like it's already coming back to me. |
| Eh VN readers just wanted everyone to feel the same way they did about the visual novel. Nothing wrong with that, but they did go a little overboard with the reactions. Not saying they can't be disappointed, but I think they might have ruined some of the experience for people who were enjoying the show. Being critical is fine, but saying anyone who likes this adaption is dumb is going too far. Though this is just fans of works in general. Passionate people about stuff they love are usually hard to calm down. |
hyperknees91Jan 6, 2014 6:33 PM
| The Air adaptation is also considered bad, though. e.e I try not to insult people who overlook the show's flaws, but when you magnify the flaws and how the hinder the experience to the 10-20,000 people who are still watching the show, that creates a significant impact. |
| I'm not speaking of you vlad, we all know you cool. You know sometimes I wonder how bad the robotics;notes adaption was. |
| I hear it has some issues in regards to pacing and development of the antagonist, but the source material doesn't seem too hyped up in Japan, at least according to Erogamescape. The scores are on par with Chaos;Head. Well, Nitro+ didn't handle the writing/production of Robotics;Notes, so I don't think we really missed out on another Steins;Gate. There was a thread on /a/ about it recently. Warning: intelligent conversations ahead: http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/99724538/ |
| I miss the 24/7 hype during the time when episodes were being released every week:( ranting about every stupid little thing JC Staff does was something I miss a LOT. Unless they fuck up EX, then.... |
epic_joelle said: Unless they fuck up EX, then.... Well, those who played EX, like me, will be the ones who gonna start the rant. |
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